I guess Kap isn't earning his what $65 million contract? Kapminds me of Brian Wilson, remember him, fear the beard guy. Whatever happened to him?
The only way to remove this 'old school' mentality is to remove the old school (Goodell).
Glenn, thank you for trying to approach a modicum of truthful analyses of this NFL situation.
I would love to read a column of yours on this same subject, unleashed from any restraints.
This post rambles all over the place with no cohesion whatsoever. And "It isn't up to the victim to report the crime. If a bank were robbed, the bank doesn't have to report it. That's the job of the police." ..... What universe do you live in where the police should be going around to every person and establishment constantly asking "Are you okay? Have you been robbed lately? Any domestic violence going on around here?" Of course it's up to the victim to report a crime, who the hell else is going to. What a terrible and useless post.
Let's see under Barbour lots of great Women's teams. Under Barbour ZERO BCS Bowl games. No Rose Bowl. Marginalized the Rugby program. Almost threw away Mens Baseball. She was a disaster!! I suppose the commenters here who love womans sports and maybe Soccer were fine with her.
@Jasamine You are naive and I hope your life continues to allow you to be. But "the law enforcement officials would have never let them go home together" is almost laughable. I intervened in an assault and the perp turned around and tried to kill me with a knife. The police talked me out of filing charges, and like an idiot, I went with that. They said he had a "pretty good defense" because he was drunk. He definitely was trying to kill his girlfriend, and then when I spoiled his fun, he definitely tried to kill me. And he went home with his girlfriend. The big police sanction was that she had to drive.
Glenn, Its very irresponsible to say he "beat her up". He did NOT. You forget that Janay Rice, was also charged and arrested for assaulting Ray. Also, you seem to have forgotten that ray and Janay were allowed to go home together after the incident, and the police did not put a restraining order against either one of them. If he in fact "beat her up" as you say, the law enforcement officials would have never let them go home together. But I understand that writing unfounded and irresponsible things gets you the attention you are seeking.
Ooohhh Glen! I sure haven't missed your rants in the Chron.
First, I understand why Birks wants to bring in his own AD. This is very common. Just like when you get a new AD they want their own hires for the big revenue sports like football & basketball.
As a Cal Bears fan since the glory years of Chuck Muncie I've seen all of the ups (Tedford's early years) and the downs (Holmoe, Tedford's last 2 years, Dykes). I really thought long and hard about renewing my season tickets and finally did two weeks ago. Will I go to every game? No. Will I go to any game with a kickoff later than 6pm? No.
But I must also agree with Mark W '86. As a season ticket holder , Bear Backer, and ADept donor I go to several events a year where Sandy speaks. She is a fabulous speaker, has passion for Cal, and the S-A's love her. Reading her tweets with several football players shows the relationship she develops with the students. And how many S-A's call their AD "Boss Lady"????
Sandy will be missed, but it is all in the circle of life for a college athletic department. New chancellor means new AD, which means a new football coach. Unless Sonny can go 6-6 he will be replaced IMHO.
You are an idiot. Offense that doesn't work in the Pac-12? Uhhhhhhhhhh I think Oregon would tend to argue....
How can you compare Tedford's tenure to Dykes? Sure, 1 bad year. ONE!!! Sonny can still put together the more winning seasons than Tedford. Coaches almost always get 5-year contracts, 1 full recruiting cycle.
Extremely poorly written. I have wasted my morning reading and writing. Why are you employed?
Ridiculous article. Sandy was a fantastic hire by Cal. She oversaw a football program during a stretch that was the winningest since...hmmm... The 1920's or 1950's? She was also a key leader is getting Memorial Stadium rebuilt, which most fans thought was a pipe dream. She was loved by alums, donors, and fans. She more than understood the Cal tradition... she was fully immersed in it. Moreover, she was also very approachable and represented Cal well at every event I ever attended. I will miss her.
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"Is there a reason you appear to be protecting Governor Corbett? Since I have not only not defended any actions by Gov Corbett, or even mentioned him at all, what this appears to be is a lie told by a delusional individual.
"Do you really want Child Protection Agencies in Pennsylvania to be overseen and monitored by College Football Coaches and not the Pennsylvania State Attorney General's Office?" No, but I would like said college football coaches to pass on reports of sex crimes against children on to the police.
Is this the sum total of your intellectual effort here? Making up straw men and lies to argue against?
"We now know that Freeh was, to be polite, stretching the truth to deflect blame away from other parties. As just one example, I point you to Freeh’s borderline lying about Paterno not following the Clery Handbook.
In 2001, there was no Clery Handbook. The first Clery Handbook wasn’t published until 2005. Freeh knows this, but accuses Paterno in the main body of his so called report anyway. How do we know? Because Freeh cleans up his mess in an obscure footnote hidden deep in his Report."
Well for one thing, the experts I cited were not talking about the Clery Act, this citation makes no sense. You have the precise citation for this, because since you managed to lie about what i have said, your veracity seems to be compromised by your adorations of Joe Paterno.
And unfortunately for your Fina was only talking about covering up the crime. The "talking heads" were referring to Child Endangerment, which is a separate crime. And one of those you are dismissing was a state prosecutor from PA with experience in prosecution of child abuse in Philadelphia.
Its good you don't regard me as stupid, because I am actually backing up my accusations with facts, But since you are the one lying about things, we can assume you are the one intentionally deceiving people.
You accuse me of "cherry picking" lines from the Sassano interview, but you have no lines or evidence to refute what I have said. Wish to expound on how Joe statement about "having other things to do" when it concerned the safety of a child fills you with respect again?
Your statement that "It is absolutely SO strikingly obvious from that interview that if not for Paterno, Sandusky would be still running the streets. Paterno had one last chance to keep Sandusky out of jail and keep this hidden from the press (protect the Program), but instead, told the truth, wherever that may lead, and let the chips fall where they may."
is to monumentally stupid as to beggar belief. Again, if it were not for the mother of Victim #1 who went to the police, and triggered the investigation then Joe Pa seems to be content to take that information to his grave.
And again, had Joe Paterno resigned that day, then he would have been doing it for the good of the school. Using his retirement as an shield against the BOT not investigating his actions showed it was just a plow from a sanctimonious hypocrite just hanging on to his job.
Please continue your defense of Joe Patenro. There is nothing like the constant reminder that his defenders are lying dolts, to permanently destroy his reputation. Keep up the stellar work, you must be so proud
Charles. You do realize that link you gave us quotes individuals that were basing their entire legal judgment on the Freeh Report. A Report that was delivered only one day prior to that article you linked, and a Report most of them probably hadn’t read. They were giving their analysis based on Freeh’s public statements.
We now know that Freeh was, to be polite, stretching the truth to deflect blame away from other parties. As just one example, I point you to Freeh’s borderline lying about Paterno not following the Clery Handbook.
In 2001, there was no Clery Handbook. The first Clery Handbook wasn’t published until 2005. Freeh knows this, but accuses Paterno in the main body of his so called report anyway. How do we know? Because Freeh cleans up his mess in an obscure footnote hidden deep in his Report.
So what you are doing Charles, is taking the word of a bunch of legal talking heads basing their entire legal conclusions on a false narrative, if they even ever got around to actually reading it, over the word, fully one year later, of the State Prosecutor on National television, who had full access to every piece of evidence available.
I don’t consider you a stupid person Charles, hence, I think you are intentionally trying to mislead people. What are you so afraid of?
You introduce me to testimony I was unaware of. I go to the first google link listed that gives me the FULL official transcript, and you get mad. You criticize me for directing people to that individual’s site so they can read the entire transcript for themselves, so I offer you the opportunity to direct them to another site that offers up the FULL transcript. What do you do? You cherry pick a couple of lines which you think look bad. All those lines do is have Paterno truthfully reply that Sandusky was no longer under his authority. So what?
I will give you one more chance to direct people to a site that offers up the FULL official transcript. If you can’t, that probably means that you viewed it on the same website I did. That would in and of itself tell me that this guy Ziegler may be legit.
As far as your insinuation that Paterno changed Curley’s mind, not only did Curley testify that wasn’t true, but Freeh also subliminally reports that wasn’t true. Nothing changed from Curley and Schultz’s February 12, 2001 meeting to Curley’s February 27, 2001 Email.
At both times, according to Freeh, Curley and Schultz were only going to notify DPW if Sandusky didn’t meet certain conditions. Freeh neglects to acknowledge this obvious fact in his conclusions. Paterno didn’t change a thing.
As far as Curley being “uncomfortable”, why wouldn’t he feel uncomfortable? When’s the last time you had to talk to someone’s employer about a subject like this?
And I must say Charles. Concerning Paterno’s Retirement Statement, what Planet do you come from? This is Paterno’s Retirement statement as it relates to Penn State’s Board:
["I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today. That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.”]
This coming from a man with 61 years of the ultimate in exemplary service, 84 years old, with Lung Cancer. Not Prostrate Cancer. Not Skin Cancer. Not Testicular Cancer. LUNG CANCER!!!
You use the word “vile” to describe me when I consider a normal human being as being compliant if backed by a Lead State Prosecutor. Well, let me consider you “vile” for taking that statement of Paterno’s as insubordination considering the circumstances. I pray that your Father or Grandfather never have to make the same decisions Paterno had to make. You strike me as someone that, as a son or grandson, would be very unforgiving.
Lastly, your “strawman argument” claim.
Correct me if I’m wrong, Charles, but weren’t you the one that brought up the subject of Victim One? Are you now upset I actually addressed it? And are you now upset with Victim One for not blaming Mr. Paterno?
Just curious Charles. No reply from you to Victim One’s claim that former Pennsylvania Attorney General and current Pennsylvania Governor Tom Corbett was responsible for Victim One's issues with Sandusky and not Joe Paterno.
Is there a reason you appear to be protecting Governor Corbett? Do you really want Child Protection Agencies in Pennsylvania to be overseen and monitored by College Football Coaches and not the Pennsylvania State Attorney General's Office? If so, maybe that says something about the State of Pennsylvania.
So many things wrong in so short an article
This was your original contention
"Schultz ran a 141 member Police force with full Police Powers and Investigative Authority."
You manage to overlook the absurdity of claiming he "ran" the department, when the testimony points out Shultz gave no input to the enforcement of law, was not a police officer, had no powers or authority. Where his authority was primarily Business/Finance and the budgets. Chief Harmon "ran" the police department. Schultz had as much police powers as a math professor. In fact where are anyone sources claiming he "ran" the department. But feel free to ignore fact that Joe Paterno never reported this incident tot eh police or other authorities. And how about the legal experts and former prosecutors who think Joe Pa could have been up on charges of child endangerment and perjury for his actions
"Well, I read it, and have an even greater respect for Paterno than I had before. His testimony and conduct in this matter was a refreshing 180 degrees from Jim Boeheim’s."
You mean like this statement from that document
"SASSANO: Did Mr. Curley get back to you at some point in time after that to advise you what actions were taken…
J. PATERNO: No, no, I didn’t, I had other things to do, we had… As I said, Jerry was not working for me."
So basically, the fact in a situation concerning a child's safety , Joe Pa "had other things to do". The fact that you have greater respect for the the man after reading this seem to reinforce the impression you are giving of blind idol worship.
"Most people assume when you notify someone with authority to actually open up a police investigation, your job is done until you are questioned or asked to testify"
Not according to some legal experts
"If you look at what happened here, it's very clear that they were aware that they had a pedophile on their campus," Oliver said. Will Spade, a former Philadelphia prosecutor who worked on a grand jury investigation of priests about a decade ago, agreed. "Spanier, Paterno, Schultz and Curley are arguably responsible for endangering all of those kids that were abused later," he said.
Read more at: http://nesn.com/2012/07/joe/
And Jennifer Storm puts it even better
“Are we now saying that you need to have this in-depth, analytical understanding of sexual violent predatorial behavior before you can call police when someone tells you that a grown man is showering in a sexual nature with a boy?” Storm said. “If so, that is very dangerous to victims, very dangerous to what we are trying to do in terms of trying to take this case and elevating it to a level to get people to understand their duties and responsibilities when it comes to keeping children safe.”
She is the current Victim's Advocate for the state of Pennsylvania. I manage to trust her word considering she actually seems to care more about the safety of children over the reputation of a football coach.
So basically, your statement of the "job being done" regarding the safety of children is quite possibility one of the most vile things I have heard in his defense. Especially considering the Curly email that indicates he talked to Joe about what action they were going to take so he would have know it was not even reported to the authorities
"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps," Curley wrote in an email to Schultz and former president Graham Spanier.
"When I first heard the announcement of Paterno offering to retire so the Penn State Board could apply their focus to more important things, I thought it was an extremely honorable gesture."
It would have been an honorable thing, had he actually stepped down right then and there, but you leave out the part where he says that the board should not look into his job status because of the announcement. Your "honorable gesture" merely then becomes a cynical act to hang on for the rest of the year. Thereby causing even more problems for the board, and a circus atmosphere after every game. Actually 100 years from now people will still wonder what kind of drooling idiots thought this was an "honorable gesture"
"Unlike Internet Posters that think Joe Paterno should have taken the law into his own hands and taken over the Pennsylvania State Government single handedly, Aaron Fisher (Victim One) doesn’t blame Paterno at all. "
"I must warn you though Charles. Victim One may disappoint all of you that want to blame Paterno for everything bad that’s happened since the Earth was created. He doesn’t blame Paterno at all. Sorry. : ^ )
Actually, what they wanted was for him to pass on a report of an eyewitness report of a sex crime against a child to the police. Thanks for the straw man arguments. Nothing does quite point out your intellectual bankruptcy quite like coming up with two of those in one article.
You may now resume your mindless groveling at the altar of your false god. Again, thanks for combining ignorance with the a contemptuous disregard for the safety of children. Such a wonderful look for Glen Dickey being proven right so many many times
I must say Charles. Your demeanor says to me you have some personal bias and rooting interest in relation to this matter.
If you are so concerned with Ziegler, why did you basically direct me to him? You quoted testimony to me I hadn’t seen. I simply googled something like “Paterno” “Sassano” “Police statement”, and Ziegler’s site came up immediately. Did you think I was just going to take your word for that testimony without reading it? Well, I read it, and have an even greater respect for Paterno than I had before. His testimony and conduct in this matter was a refreshing 180 degrees from Jim Boeheim’s.
You appear to be upset that I actually read it. I think everyone should read it. Paterno wasn’t trying to cover up or hide a thing. And I was simply trying to direct other people to that site so they could read it too. If you want to direct them to another site where the ENTIRE Statement and testimony is printed, feel free. But don’t just direct them to sites where there are only bits and spliced pieces. Ziegler reproduces the ENTIRE Statement. I actually think it is quite funny you are so upset with me for trying to obtain the facts without me just taking your word for it. : ^ )
Concerning Schultz…. McQueary, Spanier, and Police Chief Harmon all testified that Schultz was the Head of the Police Department. The Lead State Prosecutor who put Sandusky in jail, Frank Fina, backed that up on National Television when on 60 Minutes, he made the statement that Paterno had notified the Head of the jurisdiction Police Department. I know this will hurt your feelings Charles, but I will take the Pennsylvania State Prosecutor’s word over some internet guy named Charles VanSomething.
Most people assume when you notify someone with authority to actually open up a police investigation, your job is done until you are questioned or asked to testify. Every time Paterno was asked to report or testify, he did so openly and truthfully. If taking the State Prosecutor’s word over some internet guy named Charles VanSomething is lying, well so be it. : ^ )
Concerning Paterno announcing his retirement…. now I think you may be going off the deep end. You make it sound like it wasn’t Paterno’s right, after 61 years at Penn State, to announce his own retirement.
When I first heard the announcement of Paterno offering to retire so the Penn State Board could apply their focus to more important things, I thought it was an extremely honorable gesture. My first thought was “he’s doing the right thing and allowing the Board to get to the bottom of what the heck was going on”. But somehow, that was miraculously twisted to show insubordination.
Are you kidding??? After 61 years, 84 years old, probably knowing you have lung cancer, you are being insubordinate for offering to retire??? What kind of la la world do you live in Charles? This is why rational people, 100 years from now when this subject isn’t so toxic or political, will think everyone criticizing Paterno was drop dead insane.
I’m really glad you brought up Victim One Charles. Funny thing about him. Unlike Internet Posters that think Joe Paterno should have taken the law into his own hands and taken over the Pennsylvania State Government single handedly, Aaron Fisher (Victim One) doesn’t blame Paterno at all. He actually blames the Pennsylvania State Law Enforcement Authorities whose job it was to put Sandusky in jail. Number one at the top of that list is former Pennsylvania State Attorney General and current Pennsylvania State Governor, Tom Corbett.
Fisher (Victim One) accuses Corbett of slow playing the Sandusky investigation for 3 years while he was filling his pockets with campaign contributions from Sandusky’s real employer, the Second Mile. Unlike some football coach that hadn’t had a meaningful conversation with Sandusky since the last Century, Corbett’s Attorney General’s office was mandated by Pennsylvania State Law to monitor and oversee the operations of the Second Mile. Corbett was very familiar with everything concerning Sandusky and Victim One going back to I believe late 2008.
If Glenn wants to get into something really juicy, maybe he and other journalists should start up an investigation of Tom Corbett. He sounds like one of the slimiest politicians in History. How someone like Joe Paterno is being lynched by a mob, while Cobett is getting off scott free, is again something all those people will look back on 100 years from now, and think we were all completely brain dead.
I hope you won’t fly off the handle again when I direct people to google Aaron Fisher’s book, “Silent No More”, and see who one of the Victims actually blames for the Sandusky mess. I must warn you though Charles. Victim One may disappoint all of you that want to blame Paterno for everything bad that’s happened since the Earth was created. He doesn’t blame Paterno at all. Sorry. : ^ )
By the way. Of those 3 assaults you mentioned post 2001, none of those happened on the Penn State campus. How the Grand Jury Presentment turned the despicable actions of what happened at Aaron Fisher’s high school, into heroic acts, is quite puzzling. Almost makes you wonder if they didn’t have some kind of agenda.
OK Charles! Your turn to yell at me again and tell me the State Prosecutor and Victim One are liars. Go for it! : ^ )
"It is absolutely SO strikingly obvious from that interview that if not for Paterno, Sandusky would be still running the streets." Not to anyone who actually know that facts of the case. The reason for Sandusky's downfall would be the mother of victim #1 who reported him in 2009, starting the investigation. Actually, there are three victims who's were assaulted after that night in 2001, so what is strikingly obvious is that Joe Pa, as well as the others who did not report the assault back in 2001, bear responsibility for the crimes against those children. Tell us are all the "facts" in your life this distorted, or do you just reserve that for Joe Pa?
So "the second" you refer to came about 10 years and three victims later.
And tell me how does a man, who by testimony did not instruct the chief in any way how to do his job as far as law enforcement went, end up "running" the police department at PSU. And may I remind you that Schultz had no police training, was not a police officer, and therefore had not policing power or investigative authority. So basically, you are still doing the lying, and a really poor job of it one might add.
And Joe Paterno was not fired for cooperating with the police. He was fired for being an arrogant jerk in the middle of a crises. When the scandal breaks he announces his retirement, and tells the Board of Trustees that they should not look into his job status because of that. Sorry, but sitting on evidence of a sex crime against a child for about 10 years does not give you the right to dictate your departure.
Thank you for proving that the only way to defend Joe Paterno is to ignore the facts. Oh yes, and be a follower of that vile cretin John Ziegler. A man so repulsive in his tactics that the Paterno family has distanced themselves from him. Nothing shows ones intellectual bankruptcy better than referring to a man that broadcast the name of a sex crime victim for his own ends. Thanks again from proving Glen Dickey so wise. PSU got off easy
Charles VonG.... Thank you SO much for directing me to that interview with Sassano!! I had a copy of the pre-Grand Jury statement with Sassano which basically said nothing. But I didn't have access to the one that was done basically two weeks before he was fired. I wish I could link it here, but this site seems to have some issues. For anyone interested, it's at a place called "Framingpaterno.com" run by some guy named John Ziegler. Apparently, he is some media guy that thinks Paterno was framed.
Anyway. Any person that reads that interview with Sassano and thinks Paterno had anything to do with a coverup is bonkers out of their mind, or has a HUGE agenda to push. It is absolutely SO strikingly obvious from that interview that if not for Paterno, Sandusky would be still running the streets. Paterno had one last chance to keep Sandusky out of jail and keep this hidden from the press (protect the Program), but instead, told the truth, wherever that may lead, and let the chips fall where they may.
If Paterno was guilty of ANYTHING, it was putting too much reliance on the authorities above him with the power to actually do something. The second the authorities came to HIM, he never held back from telling the truth. He didn't pull a Jim Boeheim and call the kids all "Liars".
Man. After reading that interview with the police detective, just two weeks before he was actually FIRED FOR CO-OPERATING WITH THE POLICE WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD, really opens my eyes as to why all the Penn State people are so upset. Paterno must have been an amazing Man.
As to your comment that I lied about Schultz reporting police activity directly to Spanier, that was Harmon's own testimony. I repeat. Harmon reported police activity to Schultz, and Schultz then reported it to Spanier.
July 29, 2013 Curley, Schultz, Spanier Preliminary Hearing:
Q: Did you know Gary Schultz?
Q: How did you know Mr. Schultz?
Harmon: He was my direct superior. He was the senior vice president for finance and business. And beginning in -- or about 19 -- sometime I believe in 1997, I began reporting to him directly.
Q: You said he was your direct report. What does that mean?
Harmon: Well, he was my immediate supervisor. He would have provided the budget to the department. He was the person to whom I was accountable for the operations and the management of the University Police.
Q: Did you ever consult with him about individual police investigations or cases?
Harmon: I did.
Harmon then goes on to discuss how he informed Schultz of all serious police activity and the status of any on-going investigations. Then, Harmon is asked about Spanier.
Q: Let me ask you this. Who was the President of the University in 1998?
Harmon: Dr. Graham Spanier
Q: And, to your understanding, was it -- did Gary Schultz report directly to the President of the University?
Harmon: He did.
Q: And you reported directly to Gary Schultz?
Harmon: That's correct.
Harmon then goes on to testify that he never had any contact with Spanier except when called in to what was known as a "President's Consult". That was a meeting held periodically where Department Heads would get together. On rare occasions, Harmon would be called in to give a Report to the group about some new security Program or serious Police matter. But Harmon NEVER reported police activity directly to Spanier. As Harmon testifies under oath, Schultz did.
Whose doing the lying Charles?
"Paterno's testimony is so vague and contradictory it is not worth much. Paterno says he didn't know what Sandusky and the boy were doing, which contradicts the "sexual nature" testimony." If you look at the testimony he refers to being told of "fondling" so the testimony does is actually not contradicted.. To people that are not vile cretins. "Inappropriate sexual activity" and an incident of a "sexual nature" . (Both from Joe Paterno's own statements) iarenot vague
"Paterno's fondling testimony was likewise vague because he didn't say what was fondled - hair, shoulders, face, etc. Fondling can be sexual or nonsexual." A grown man fondling a child in the shower is not vague, it is a reason to call the police/state authorities. Especially since in Paterno's testimony he refers to it as of a "sexual nature" You don't really get to ignore testimony just because you don't like it.
"After Sandusky was arrested, Paterno did say that he never suspected Sandusky was a child molester and that Sandusky fooled us all." To those of us who do not regard his words as holy script, since his statements under oath, and to an investigator from the AGs office contradict that fact he did not suspect him, what this looks like is a desperate attempt for him to retrieve his reputation. Too bad, that ship has sailed.
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